Having 10bit problems?

I feel bad for you son, I have 99 problems but 10bit ain’t one!


That aside, apparently people are still complaining about fansubbers switching to 10bit. I personally do not see the problem, update your shit people, CCCP, K-Lite, VLC, madVR all play 10 bit files without fail on your PC. My friend has a 6 year old piece of shit PC which plays 10bit with out any problems.


If you need 8bit because you play it on PS3, Xbox, TV etc, damn well encode it yourself, don’t expect fansubbers to accommodate to your needs. But my PC is shit and takes ages to encode: 0 = the amount of fucks I give about that, leave your PC encoding overnight.


There are guides out there, expand your knowledge in the computer world and try something new:


1. Youtube guide


2. Guide from Commie


Failing that, visit NemDiggers and download the mp4s they release.

39 Comments

  1. lostn
    Guest
    September 29, 2012, 4:01 am,

    My PC plays these 10 bit videos fine… however, I’m one of those people who watches anime at work during breaks via smart phone, and none of them can handle it like a PC can. I have tried it on HTC One X and Samsung Galaxy S3, the two best Android phones. They are choppy. With HW decoding there are glitches and artifacts. In software decoding, everything looks fine, except it gets choppy and drops frames, and every few minutes the sound and video go out of sync and I have to rewind it a few seconds to resync it.

    I highly doubt the iPhone 5 will fare any better since it’s less powerful (1ghz dual core vs 1.5ghz quad core) and mkv HW playback isn’t even supported on IOS.

    Not everyone watches their anime on their PC. There are other devices that may be top of the line in their respective industry but are still not comparable to even a 5 year old PC.

    • Christopher
      Guest
      October 31, 2012, 3:20 am,

      iPhone 5 do Play 10 Bits video just fine, IOS Do better with 1GHz Dual Core than android with a 2.7 GHz Quad Core, it’s all about the software and how Optimized is, as example, iOS Is built on Objective C, Damn fast, Android on Java, Damn Fat.

      Also iPhone 5 have 1.3 GHz Btw.

      What I Don’t know is if my LG 70 Inchs Smart TV May be able to Play 10 Bits FuckHigh Quality Video streamed from my PC With Wireless Smart Share.

      • Fox
        Guest
        February 14, 2013, 2:44 am,

        Uh, Android is built in Java? No… It’s built on Linux – clock speed isn’t everything either.

        • Avatar of Shades
          Shades
          super moderator
          February 14, 2013, 10:18 am,

          It’s UI/apps use Java. The only Linux thing about it is a modified Linux kernel. Most everything else is handled in Java, hence why Oracle was suing Google for their “inappropriate” use of Java. (They probably wanted more licensing money than Google was giving).

          Also, ios does jack shit. iPad mini cannot playback a 10bit mkv fluidly, and this is a jailbroken mini with XBMC installed.

          • milkmandan
            Guest
            April 21, 2013, 10:30 am,

            To be fair the iPad Mini can’t do fluid 10bit mkv playback is because the iPad mini is using an A5 (NOT even A5X) and not the A6 or A6X in the iPhone 5 and the iPad 4th gen.

          • milkmandan
            Guest
            April 21, 2013, 10:31 am,

            Try a different app such as AV Player or HD Player.

      • weilshiet
        Guest
        March 10, 2013, 7:05 pm,

        Please stop embarassing yourself, you don’t even know what you’re talking about.

    • milkmandan
      Guest
      April 21, 2013, 10:29 am,

      It has been proven.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ua6AqJGmLg

      The iPhone 5 currently is the only phone on the market that has near flawless 10bit mkv playback for anime. Christopher is 100% right. The iPhone running iOS even at a lower clock speed outperforms an Android phone (MX Player, etc) at anime 10bit mkv playback. The recommended apps to use are AVPlayer or HD Player. Both are very good. HD Player can even handle typesetting and karaoke. There are no Android phones (currently) or apps that can do that.

  2. Tomasz
    Guest
    July 30, 2012, 8:19 am,

    “10 bits utilize double resources so if u don’t have a good PC it wont play well no matter what” this doesn’t reach to all the people who applause to 10-bit. chandy10 i doubt that a 6 year old pc can handle Redline. My 3 year old could not so i think you are full of shit.

  3. asdasdasd
    Guest
    June 12, 2012, 2:09 am,

    it looks awesome, agreed, but wont play on my mobile phone. i’m being forced to just re process it with x264.exe (8bit) and re-mux audio to be able to play it on my galaxy nexus.

    the only way i wouldn’t mind h10p is if there was a good program to re-encode it automatically with multithreaded capability, which i don’t manage to get working on x264.exe

  4. Hector
    Guest
    June 8, 2012, 5:42 am,

    I don’t have problem in playing 10 bit. But I do have problem in downloading it. While internet speed is improving in many countries, in my country the speed DROPS. Faster internet means limited quota and expensive. 380MB file takes like 4 – 5 hours to download! >< If it fails, I start from zero.

    So I prefer 480px.

    • Avatar of Shades
      Shades
      super moderator
      June 8, 2012, 8:53 am,

      Use Jdownloader. You can resume a lot of downloads with it. (Does not work with all hosts, but it does with ifile and jumbo I think).

      We provide all resolutions, but we cannot do anything if the subber only releases one version. Commie is known to do this, usually 720p and 10bit.

  5. Victor
    Guest
    June 7, 2012, 6:12 pm,

    i’m posting this here because i can’t reach the main site: http://www.animefansftw.com
    why am i getting a blank page, is there a new address or something, is the site down?

    • Avatar of drunktentpeg
      drunktentpeg
      editor
      June 7, 2012, 9:00 pm,

      Ok, a lot of people seem to be having this problem. I think the main reason is the site has a new IP address and your ISP is probably being slow in updating their DNS so the url points to the old IP instead of the new. I suggest you try clicking on the site, when you get a white screen press Ctrl F5, this should clear the cache for http://www.animefansftw.com. I would also suggest doing a full cache clean using CCleaner (google it). After that using google, search for animefansftw and attempt to load the site that way.

  6. Gentou
    Guest
    April 23, 2012, 7:17 am,

    honestly, i was pissed and i just googled a solution….lol

    thankfully solutions were there when i searched for it :3

    well still, thanks admin for the helpful post. even though many people might have found solutions already, it’s good for people who are newer and don’t tend to use the computer much.

  7. onizuka45
    Guest
    April 16, 2012, 11:16 pm,

    VLC Player 2.0 can play 10-bit files without any problem.

    • Shades
      Guest
      April 17, 2012, 4:19 am,

      Last I heard, VLC dithers everything down to 8bit ruining the whole point to 10bit anime.

  8. Khoo
    Guest
    April 16, 2012, 2:56 pm,

    pure codec player work perfectly

  9. jonny
    Guest
    April 16, 2012, 5:24 am,

    i for one im not gonna buy a new device just to watch 10-bit video which looks just like 8-bit but i now encode my own videos from 10 too 8 bit. It takes me about 2 hours to do so but still saves me a lot of money in having to buy a 10 bit supported device

  10. yasu
    Guest
    April 16, 2012, 3:37 am,

    i can play 10 bit but that video quality is just terriable.

  11. TheOiulkj
    Guest
    April 16, 2012, 12:53 am,

    @the people who think 10bit playback requires a “good” computer:
    Unless you consider old pieces of shit with c2d’s as “good” then no, you don’t need a good computer.

    If your computer can’t play it in 10bit, it probably couldn’t play it in 8bit either. And if you can’t afford some $300 5 year old piece of crap with a c2d, then you should really stop watching anime and think about your life.

    If you still can’t play 10bit after upgrading your commodore 64, then you probably did some stupid shit with your settings. Google it, fix it, quit yer bitchin. Though, I have no idea how you can even screw up with guides as simple as the ones posted here.

  12. unclebob
    Guest
    April 15, 2012, 11:01 pm,

    heard of it. googled it. updated it. never had a problem since.
    What´s the deal?

    Check this and then please **** **.

    http://www.projectharuhi.net/?p=11611

  13. piccolo daimaou-sama
    Guest
    April 15, 2012, 8:43 pm,

    get avi if u cannnot play 10bit mkv

  14. Firzen
    Guest
    April 15, 2012, 7:39 pm,

    u know, 10 bits utilize double resources so if u don’t have a good PC it wont play well no matter what

  15. Davi3d
    Guest
    April 15, 2012, 7:02 pm,

    People complaining about 10-bit encoding are not the problem, and dismissing their valid complaints as pointless carping is simply evading the issue.

    Could someone point out to me the concrete utility of 10-bit? Does it make encoding faster or better or easier? Are file sizes significantly smaller? Is the picture quality significantly better? Is any aspect of creating a fan-sub easier, faster, better? Does 10-bit encompass a wider range of devices it works on?

    What’s the point of 10-bit? What is the incentive to switch?

    I don’t have any skin in this game; I’m just a casual user.

    But I’ll tell you one thing: To report that you have no problems is worthless. Problems are vital feedback, enabling us to do better. Fix the problems and the complaints go away. And fixing the problem with 10-bit is very simple – abandon it and go back to 8-bit.

    • chandy10
      Guest
      April 15, 2012, 7:21 pm,

      Valid complaints you say: “10bit shit… pass on this”, this is one of many examples of complaints, I some how doubt in any way, shape or form that complaints like these are valid.

      You want to know more about 10bit? Here are a variety of articles written about the new and wonderous 10bit: Here | Here | Here | Here | Here | Here | Here | And here

      “Does 10-bit encompass a wider range of devices it works on?” As with all new things, it takes a while for devices to be updated to be compatible. But once everything is, why stick with the old?

      “What’s the point of 10-bit? What is the incentive to switch?” The point is technology is always advancing, becoming more superior to its predecessor. As the popular saying goes “Out with the old in with the new”

      “fixing the problem with 10-bit is very simple – abandon it and go back to 8-bit” So basically it is safe to say you are a luddite, and are opposed to change as it may mean you have to learn something new and adapt the way you watch stuff. I personally have not had any problems with 10bit.

      Technology will move onwards regardless of what you think, so you best enjoy your dark ages while you can.

      But I guess you are still on Windows 95, using Internet Explorer, with a CRT monitor.

    • Davi3d
      Guest
      April 15, 2012, 11:08 pm,

      I agree 100% that complaints without specifics are worthless and correctly disregarded as specious.

      However, I disagree that newer “technology” is a good reason for anything – especially without specifics as to the benefits thereof. Would it make sense to buy a new computer system just so you could run Windows/8? Not unless it could do things that competing operating systems could not do.

      As to being a luddite – I would simply point out that name-calling is much more likely to undermine your position than that of your denigratee! (is that even a word [lol])

      There is a word to describe those who rush headlong into new technology: “pioneers”. And what are pioneers? – full of arrows. I don’t adopt any MS operating system until it is at least a year old – a position I now hold because I’ve been “full of arrows” as a result of operating system errors.

      I appreciate your taking the time to respond, but I do not accept “new technology, but without discernable benefits” as valid reason for changing the encoding. One person pointed out “10-bit requires twice the resources.” Show me the justification for spending time, effort and $ on changing to 10-bit. And by the way, I’ve read those articles, too, but I’ve yet to see the real, as opposed to theoretical, benefit of the switch.

      • hotty
        Guest
        April 16, 2012, 3:11 pm,

        The links in chandy10 post provide everything you need to know, but since he throws some pdfs in it with a lot of technical stuff – which isn’t relevant for – just the three links you need:
        1. What are the advantages of 10bit
        http://paste.pocoo.org/show/439899/
        2. How to 10bit
        http://www.projectharuhi.net/?p=11611
        3. How to encode 10bit to 8bit for devices
        http://commiesubs.com/how-to-convert-10bit-to-8bit/

        To sum it up: 10bit means smaller file size ( ~ – 30% , significant to 1080p releases) while improving image quality.
        If you are using non-10bit software (old versions of vlc or mpc) it downsizes the 10bit to 8bit while you are playing the video. Which of course eats most cpus out there alive.
        Therefore the myth, 10bit consumes more resources.

  16. BlackPhantom
    Guest
    April 15, 2012, 5:54 pm,

    Seriously people? How are you still having trouble playing 10 bit files?

    Update your crap and expanded your knowledge. It isn’t that tough to play 10 bit files. They’re are plenty of ways to play 10 bit files that even a monkey holding a banana can do it.

  17. NukaCola
    Guest
    April 15, 2012, 4:50 pm,

    How are people have fails with vlc, mine plays flawlessly at 2.0.1

    Regardless 10bit is kind of pointless, the size savings havent really been used to the advantage of groups if one notices, I mean, how is the size only going to differ by 0.5MB…

  18. Ace3df
    Guest
    April 15, 2012, 4:29 pm,

    xD The only problems I get is when i’m encoding and trying to watch a 10-bit video.
    Best way with Media Player Classic: Make the window size smaller (video size), takes less CPU – problem solved.

  19. SUP BROSKI
    Guest
    April 15, 2012, 4:19 pm,

    Just update your VLC, 10bit works BRAH

  20. Grungust_Moronz
    Guest
    April 15, 2012, 4:06 pm,

    VLC isn’t very effective in playing it kinda failed on me midway with MKV’s but K-Lite works incredibly. Get K-Lite from ninite.com it’s a safe site that’ll download K-Lite and install it for you as well. (100% safe google it if you want)

  21. BlazerX
    Guest
    April 15, 2012, 2:35 pm,

    Just what is the problem? I dont understand? is 10 bit a prob?

  22. Kucik8310
    Guest
    April 15, 2012, 2:28 pm,

    dats rite dude. all they know is complaining.

  23. negativitee
    Guest
    April 15, 2012, 2:17 pm,

    Try potplayer. Plays 10 bit vidoes without needing to install any codec packs.

    http://www.dvbsupport.net/download/index.php?act=view&id=230

    And with the right skin it looks much better than other players :D

    http://laxorm.deviantart.com/art/PotPlayer-skin-Z-279148191

    • Plastic
      Guest
      April 16, 2012, 12:32 am,

      That’s pretty sexy. I’ve been using KMplayer with cccp just because I thought the PotPlayer skins were ugly (I know, I’m shallow like that) but this changes everything.

      I noticed that there are tons more awesome skins on da too.

      • FFF
        Guest
        April 16, 2012, 1:11 pm,

        I don’t get the skin problem. Do you want watch the movie or the program? Potplayer is good, bet kmplayer is better with picture quality and performance out of the box. That 10bit thing isn’t worth a shot. They can spare minimal file size but the decoding will be harder and there is no embedded mkv player with the right decoder. In anime it can be ok, since not all have awesome animation like Steamboy or Akira, so it won’t lag, but this change is forced just because the “new is better” and that crappy adware cccp can handle it. A good fansub team have a good encoder too. Here we are.

  24. sukimiki
    Guest
    April 15, 2012, 2:08 pm,

    awesome~ totally agreed

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